A Fan- Fic related topic. (not my own Fan-Fic.)

All the Nimh fans on the forum say Yo!

Ok I thought this topuic would go well in this area of the forum so here goes:

I assume that all of you have heard the Fan-fction term "Crossovers"? Well I was just wandering what you guys think would be the most interesting story to "Crossover" with NIMH?

Personally I think:

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2. Watership down
3. The Lord of the Rings
4. Who framed Roger Rabbit?
5. Babe.

So what do you guys think?

L8tr!

Jam.

Personally, I generally don't care for crossovers much. To me, it seems like people use it as a substitute for genuine creativity. Not to say that it can't be carried off creatively (Gerard Andrew's Out of Range, a crossover between NIMH, the Rescue Rangers and the Rescuers, comes to mind as an example of that, though there are a number of other NIMH fanfics that I like much better), but it still requires effort to do it; perhaps even more so, since you have to reconcile the differences between two different sets of settings, characters and plots. For anyone who needs a reminder to what happens when crossovers go bad, I refer you to the infamously bad Rangers of NIMH[=http://linkchecker.stacken.kth.se/mst3k/]Rangers of NIMH crossovers (link goes to MiSTed version, as it is the only way to experience this 'classic' piece of... work).

That said, crossovers can be fun; especially when they don't take themselves seriously. I've thought it might be cute to see a NIMH and Dangermouse[=http://www.clubdm.com/]Dangermouse crossover.

I can't help but comment on your suggestions--just so you know, I'm not criticizing you or your ideas, this is just what I think when I think of a crossover between NIMH and your suggestions. Maybe someone could carry them off well.

1. Star Trek - Yeah, I know what image you're talking about; I always thought it was one of the funnier images[=http://www.thornvalley.com/gallery/fan/singshow/nimhtrk1]one of the funnier images Ken Singshow did. That said... Eh... I don't think it'd work so well. The Secret of NIMH has a strong 'fantasy' base that'd be hard to work into the colder 'sci-fi' base of Star Trek. Again, might be eligible for a 'fun' crossover, but not something I'd ever take seriously. I'd personally rather see a fanfic about the Rats of NIMH far into the future--perhaps they've attained the technology to do spaceflight of their own? Maybe they've 'integrated' somewhat with human society? Maybe humans have destroyed themselves, and they, being hardier creatures, have survived to pick up the pieces that are left? Now that I think about it, I can't believe what a great, unexploited well of ideas that is.

2. Watership Down - I've only seen the movie once, so I don't remember it that well. I suppose it could work, but you'd have to figure out a way to get rabbits and mice to interact in a way that makes sense. lishrugsli

3. The Lord of the Rings. If you're plannng on anything to be taken seriously, then no. Absolutely not. About the only thing I can think of here would be a slightly humorous retelling of the story with mice and rats instead of Hobbits and Men. And even then, that sounds like a bit of a stretch.

4. Who framed Roger Rabbit? - Short answer: Uh... No. Slightly longer answer: Only if you do it more from the 'Roger Rabbit' side, and again, would have to be a 'fun' type crossover. Otherwise, no.

5. Babe - The feel of NIMH and the feel of Babe are so entirely different in my mind that I can't even envision a possible crossover that'd work well. Might as well try to do a crossover with Charlotte's Web.

Anyway, that's my $0.02.

Waz Up!

Personally, I was thinking a crossover between NIMH and The Haunting might be interesting. And come to think of it, a crossover between NIMH and The Ninth Gate might be interesting too.

YO! :wink:

Keep the Light!
Sp87 ﭿﮥﮭﮢﯜﯥﷲ

what about star wars!!!!!!!!!!
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

How about the Secret of NIMH and Ever After? Could that one work? If so then I was thinking about trying to do one (I have a semi plot worked out already). If anyone is wants to help me out, then E-mail me at: email==amf005@bridgewater.eduamf005@bridgewater.edu=amf005@bridgewater.eduamf005@bridgewater.edu/email 8).

Also this might be off topic, but I do know that Ken Singshows NIMH: The Unauthorized Sequel was uncompleted since he got a letter from the people in Japan [someone told me about it earlier]. Could we (or someone) ask Mr. Singshow if he could post a detailed summary of how the fanfic would end on either Thorn Valley or Robins? Because he still wouldn't really be writing the story....and I think that most of the fans who've started to read NIMH: TUS want to know how it ends. It was just a suggestion, since the author of Between the Hammer and the Anvil did a similiar thing.

Thanks!

EagleBlaze


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"We--we were just talking about you."

"Well that's refreshing Jenner, usually you're screaming about us."-Justin, Captain of the Guards

Also this might be off topic, but I do know that Ken Singshows NIMH: The Unauthorized Sequel was uncompleted since he got a letter from the people in Japan [someone told me about it earlier]. Could we (or someone) ask Mr. Singshow if he could post a detailed summary of how the fanfic would end on either Thorn Valley or Robins?

The project was abandoned. There was a group of us who were helping Ken with the story back in 1995-96, but after the letter was received, it ended. As to the ideas for the story...there isn't much to tell beyond what is on the web.

Yo!

Hey losts of wonderful ideas so far. Thanks guys!

I agree that (as Simon has stated) SoN is of a fantasy genre and as such it would be difficult to combine it with other plotlines and settings and still keep the true "feel" of the origanal elements of the story alive.

Though it is possible to create great storys. I suppose the greatest obsticale to overcome when writing a crossover is to creat a good "balance" between, in this instance - Nimh and whatever your crossing it over with.

Keep those posts a'comin' guys!

L8tr!

Jam-

Since there's been some discussion about crossovers on the "good Justin/Brisby fanfic" topic I thought I'd resurrect an old topic to hopefully continue the discussion.

In my own stories I introduced the capability of interdimensional travel for the Stone, which would open up all manner of possibilities for crossovers. I've toyed with the idea of a group from Thorn Valley using it to cross into the world of Redwall, where it might be interesting to see how the abbey residents interact with the T.V. visitors, especially considering the rats in the Redwall universe generally aren't a very well-mannered and altruistic bunch like Justin and company, and so they might be looked upon with suspicion at first. Imagine Martin Brisby's surprise at seeing how revered his namesake is. And incidentally, I was mainly keying on the animated version of Redwall, as I've only read one of the books so far.

Redwall would be a cool crossover. I never really thought about it. Considering my knowledge of such things stems from my limited viewing of the T.V. show.

My main problem with crossovers is that you have to be familiar with both sets of canon in order to get the full experience and my limited knowledge of Redwall would make it hard for me to care too much.

How about an Animal Farm crossover? The communist pigs vs. the democratic rats. I dunno, I just think a Thorn Valley war would be really cool.

I think I remember the Redwall TV show; I'm interested. Once I refresh myself by checking it out of the library, we could work on such a crossover (after the sequel fanfic Timbers and I are doing).

what about star wars!!!!!!!!!!
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhlDDNjBt9s
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKfV6FHm4eU

;)

Steven

Alright, I've got the Redwall TV show out of the Library, and I think I've got a good grip on what the show's about. I've seen every episode up to Cluney's Clowns. (Cluney's henchmen were clowns in every episode anyway, so it's a fitting role for them) I've got at least one good idea: You know King Bull Sparra? Recognize what's around his neck?

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Perhaps the NIMH Visitors could arrive at a point before King Bull Sparra's death, and he takes the Stone from them. They can't get back without it (seeing as it's how they got there in the first place), and the whole plot could revolve around trying to get the stone back from King Bull Sparra. Better yet, what if their interference in the Redwall universe results in King Bull Sparra surviving the fall with Matthias, still keeping the Stone, and refusing to ally with Redwall Abbey? Food for thought. ;)

And the Martin thing is interesting as well. Martin Brisby could be mistaken for Martin the Warrior, and then, thanks to his ego, he could try to trick Redwall into thinking he [i]was[/i] Martin the Warrior... Man, there are some interesting things we can do with this! :twisted:

Steven

I'd forgotten about the King's red amulet. That would make for an interesting plot, but right now I've got my hands full with getting my old stories posted. Glad I could fuel your enthusiasm!

I'd forgotten about the King's red amulet. That would make for an interesting plot, but right now I've got my hands full with getting my old stories posted. Glad I could fuel your enthusiasm!

That's okay, I'm busy with things, too. Currently, I'm working on a more consice version of my War of Thorn Valley plot.

On a side note, I'm up to the eighth episode of the first season of Redwall.
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Steven

I read the first Redwall book and enjoyed it. Don't know why I never followed up with the other books. The series is on Netflix, so I'll be hitting that up.

Here's something I'd forgotten about, another topic which explores the idea of a NIMH/Redwall crossover

http//www.thornvalley.com/commons/forum/viewtopic.php?t=628

Some of the points we'd already discussed were brought up here, esp. the fact that they're in two very different fictional universes.