A message to characters from the film

If you were to tell a character something you've always wanted to, what would it be?

I shall write my messages some other time. I'm going to bed now. It's almost 9:30 and I was supposed to sleep at 9.

This isn't telling as much as it's asking.
I'd want to ask Mr. Ages if he isn't happy with living in that old farm equipment, why doesn't he just move?

I would ask Nicodemus,

"Would it be possible for me to become a rat and live among you all--living among humans like myself just isn't for me. There's money concerns, IRS, taxes, IRS, living bills, IRS, Government Spying, IRS...did I mention the IRS?"

take me with you, please. Maybe I belong with rats.

One question that comes to my mind is this; If Nicodemus could see into the future with that magical glowing orb of his, why could he not forsee his own death at the hands of Jenner? One possibility (If you don't mind me answering my own question), is that maybe he did know ahead of time of the events that would ultimately lead to his death, but being the wise and spiritual leader that he was, he could not forsake his responsibility to do what had to be done. These are just my thoughts mind you. They may or may not be true. Let me know what you think.

Peace :)
NIMHmaniac

One question that comes to my mind is this; If Nicodemus could see into the future with that magical glowing orb of his, why could he not forsee his own death at the hands of Jenner? One possibility (If you don't mind me answering my own question), is that maybe he did know ahead of time of the events that would ultimately lead to his death, but being the wise and spiritual leader that he was, he could not forsake his responsibility to do what had to be done. These are just my thoughts mind you. They may or may not be true. Let me know what you think.

Peace :)
NIMHmaniac

For my two cents, I'm betting that the alternative was that Jenner's true evil nature would not have been revealed. This might have led to the rats not leaving the rosebush in time to escape extermination. If Nicodemus did indeed forsee that happening, I'd expect he would be willing to sacrifice himself to save the rest of the rats. Jenner did seem very, very persuasive, so it's totally within possibility that he could have convinced the rats not to leave.

I would ask Mrs. Brisby what it really felt like to have the Stone's power going thru her and to lift her house to safety.

take me with you, please. Maybe I belong with rats.

I don't even think I belong with rats...

I would ask the rats if I can live amomng them too..

And I'd ask Mrs Brisby out.. (if anyone had thought of that yet.)

Ahem:

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BliTCH THAT BRICK HOUSE DON'T HAVE CENTRAL HEATING! IT'S AS COLD INSIDE AS IT IS OUTSIDE! NOW GRAB YER BRAT, WRAP HIM UP AND GET HIM THE HELL OUTTA THERE!

"Chill will kill him" my liss... Crazy liss mouse...

Ahem:

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BliTCH THAT BRICK HOUSE DON'T HAVE CENTRAL HEATING! IT'S AS COLD INSIDE AS IT IS OUTSIDE! NOW GRAB YER BRAT, WRAP HIM UP AND GET HIM THE HELL OUTTA THERE!

"Chill will kill him" my liss... Crazy liss mouse...

I think technically you're right. As far as I remember, it is double-pneumonia, and not the fever, that would be deathly due to chill in the air.

Well, in the movie, they did have a fireplace. :P

In the book, they said that Timothy had a lot of bedding, and so I'm guessing the room would be at least somewhat warmer due to body heat, since the air inside and outside wouldn't tend to mix very much. Not that it mattered, since the whole scene with the plow wasn't in the book to begin with. ;)

Incidentally, Wikipedia's entry on Pneumonia[=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia]Wikipedia's entry on Pneumonia doesn't mention whether cold air would exacerbate the illness or not. I'm inclined to believe that it might've been unscientific 'folk knowledge' that drove that idea. But then we wouldn't have a story. n.n

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Also I like to point out that it does mention in the book that the block is in cased in mud or something like that.. So it was wind proof as well as water proof..

Well, in the movie, they did have a fireplace. :P

In the book, they said that Timothy had a lot of bedding, and so I'm guessing the room would be at least somewhat warmer due to body heat, since the air inside and outside wouldn't tend to mix very much. Not that it mattered, since the whole scene with the plow wasn't in the book to begin with. ;)

Incidentally, Wikipedia's entry on Pneumonia[=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia]Wikipedia's entry on Pneumonia doesn't mention whether cold air would exacerbate the illness or not. I'm inclined to believe that it might've been unscientific 'folk knowledge' that drove that idea. But then we wouldn't have a story. n.n

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It somewhat is folk knowledge. Of course, Wikipedia won't acknowledge it, but I know for certain that double-pneumonia can be that deadly if the person isn't well protected.

I can't remember exactly how, but I believe it has something to do with the weakened state of the lungs.
(This is one reason why I don't like Wiki.)

Incidentally, Wikipedia's entry on Pneumonia[=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumonia]Wikipedia's entry on Pneumonia doesn't mention whether cold air would exacerbate the illness or not. I'm inclined to believe that it might've been unscientific 'folk knowledge' that drove that idea. But then we wouldn't have a story. n.n

It somewhat is folk knowledge. Of course, Wikipedia won't acknowledge it, but I know for certain that double-pneumonia can be that deadly if the person isn't well protected.

I can't remember exactly how, but I believe it has something to do with the weakened state of the lungs.
(This is one reason why I don't like Wiki.)

I'm definitely not saying that if it's not in Wikipedia it can't be true, just that it's not something Wikipedia covers. I don't think they're trying to treat topics absolutely in-depth, so an omission just means to me that whoever wrote it either didn't know one way or another or didn't think it was important enough to include. And I'm too lazy to do more legwork than that, so I jump to a conclusion based on the available data. ;)

Wikipedia is like any other source. If you care about your topic, then you don't want to use just one source, and the sources you do use need to be treated with a critical eye.

That said, I'm still inclined to believe it's not a scientifically-supported idea until I see some reliable sources indicating that. I did another search on WebMD on it, and from what I can tell, there is no mention of keeping out of cooler air, and there liisli a mention that Pneumonia isn't caused by being out in the cold--which is different that saying that cold will cause an existing problem to get worse, but still doesn't help the argument.

http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/pneumonia-topic-overview?print=true
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/bacterial-pneumonia?print=true
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/viral-pneumonia?print=true

Being out in the cold will eventually cause hypothermia, but that's not exactly a true illness as much as it is a lack of body heat. The simple treatment is to carefully warm the victim back up.

Toning down the 'angry black guy in movie theater' tone, there is another question I figure would be prudent to ask one of the characters. Ahem:

"Nicodemus, you seem like a fairly intelligent fella. You carry yourself with, let's call it, an intellectual air right? Telekenesis 'n all that. So tell me, where in that immense intellect of yours did you think that moving the Brisby home with the kids still INSIDE the %^$liing thing was a good idea?!"

Toning down the 'angry black guy in movie theater' tone, there is another question I figure would be prudent to ask one of the characters. Ahem:

"Nicodemus, you seem like a fairly intelligent fella. You carry yourself with, let's call it, an intellectual air right? Telekenesis 'n all that. So tell me, where in that immense intellect of yours did you think that moving the Brisby home with the kids still INSIDE the %^$liing thing was a good idea?!"

Ah, there you got me. I can't think of any good reason either. If it was just Timothy, limaybeli I could see that. But even in the book they take him outside briefly while their house is moved. In the movie I think it'd have made more sense for them to set up a temporary shelter (like a tent or something) for Timothy with a fire inside.

But if we did that, there wouldn't be any dramatic tension in that scene whatsoever. n.n;

I agree. In that scene Mrs. B. would have simply lost the house. It wouldn't have been too big of a deal, Nicodemus and Justin would probably have seen to it they had a good home before they left.

Toning down the 'angry black guy in movie theater' tone, there is another question I figure would be prudent to ask one of the characters. Ahem:

"Nicodemus, you seem like a fairly intelligent fella. You carry yourself with, let's call it, an intellectual air right? Telekenesis 'n all that. So tell me, where in that immense intellect of yours did you think that moving the Brisby home with the kids still INSIDE the %^$liing thing was a good idea?!"

Ah, there you got me. I can't think of any good reason either. If it was just Timothy, limaybeli I could see that. But even in the book they take him outside briefly while their house is moved. In the movie I think it'd have made more sense for them to set up a temporary shelter (like a tent or something) for Timothy with a fire inside.

But if we did that, there wouldn't be any dramatic tension in that scene whatsoever. n.n;

Good point guys! I often wondered if the rats would knock on the door to see who`s all there before the big move.

In the movie; the Shrew and children are taken by surprise, the rats just hook up and start moving.

In the book; the rats cannot get near the Brisby home because of some wild and crazy Shrew keeping them back.

ah if I could comunicate with the characters I would probably beat the crap out of the rats who stood around like idiots while justin was sword fighting jenner. I mean if he was captain of the guard shouldn't the other members of such guard have at least tried to help him. even those non members shoulkd have at least done something.

ah if I could comunicate with the characters I would probably beat the crap out of the rats who stood around like idiots while justin was sword fighting jenner. I mean if he was captain of the guard shouldn't the other members of such guard have at least tried to help him. even those non members shoulkd have at least done something.

Jenner was previously a well-respected (if not really liked) member of their community. The idea that he could just commit murder like that totally went over their heads. He was after all the first real evil-doer among them. Plus, the death of Nicodemus left a complete power vacuum among the rats. I imagine plenty of them expected Jenner to step in and fill that role, and thus perceived the fight as a struggle for leadership rather than Justin applying the justice of steel to Jenner.

ah if I could comunicate with the characters I would probably beat the crap out of the rats who stood around like idiots while justin was sword fighting jenner. I mean if he was captain of the guard shouldn't the other members of such guard have at least tried to help him. even those non members shoulkd have at least done something.

Jenner was previously a well-respected (if not really liked) member of their community. The idea that he could just commit murder like that totally went over their heads. He was after all the first real evil-doer among them. Plus, the death of Nicodemus left a complete power vacuum among the rats. I imagine plenty of them expected Jenner to step in and fill that role, and thus perceived the fight as a struggle for leadership rather than Justin applying the justice of steel to Jenner.

dude that still dont explain why they stood there why the 2 of them tried to kill eachother staring like idiots. they get the beatens they deserve.

ah if I could comunicate with the characters I would probably beat the crap out of the rats who stood around like idiots while justin was sword fighting jenner. I mean if he was captain of the guard shouldn't the other members of such guard have at least tried to help him. even those non members shoulkd have at least done something.

Jenner was previously a well-respected (if not really liked) member of their community. The idea that he could just commit murder like that totally went over their heads. He was after all the first real evil-doer among them. Plus, the death of Nicodemus left a complete power vacuum among the rats. I imagine plenty of them expected Jenner to step in and fill that role, and thus perceived the fight as a struggle for leadership rather than Justin applying the justice of steel to Jenner.

dude that still dont explain why they stood there why the 2 of them tried to kill eachother staring like idiots. they get the beatens they deserve.

Actually, it does. Their society is really, really new, and still is shaping itself. And again, Jenner was a respected member of the community. How were the other rats to really know who was telling the truth, especially when their one fully trusted leader had just died? Judging from the council meeting where Mrs. Brisby is introduced, the rats only go as far as considering her a respected guest. The trust they had in her husband doesn't really transfer over.

Here would be my question to Nicodemus If you were so deathly afraid of Jenner getting his paws on the amulet, then why did you just simply give it to Mrs. B without so much as a "Now, whatever you do, make sure to keep it out of Jenner's sight." You didn't even communicate any kind of warning about Jenner to her, for all you were aware of his "lust for power."
And this one for Mrs. B If you're an ordinary mouse who didn't get the treatments at NIMH, how were you able to understand every word of Mr. Fitzgibbons' phone conversation and fully comprehend its implications? Not to mention being able to effect your own escape from the birdcage?

Her ability to understand human speech, just to remind everyone, was a direct carryover from the O'Brien novel, where Mrs. Frisby not only understood the entire overheard dinnertime conversation, but later was able to repeat it word for word to the rats. And in the first sequel, "Racso and the Rats of NIMH," she did very much the same thing, and it was never explained how!
Of course, it's stuff like this that just provides fodder for those of us inclined to write fan-fiction.

I would tell Mr. Ages this:

"LIGHTEN UP YOU UGLY OLD COOT!! THAT BRISBY LADY DESERVES SOME DAMN RESPECT!"

I wanna see his response.

I think I would ask Mrs. Brisby out to dinner.