Non-Disney Animtion

This one was nice, and shows works of other animaters in animation,
I like the 1960`s Hermans hurmits song, not sure how the words connect ,
But still it makes the video most enjoyable,
A Tribute to the great Non-Disney animated movies, some not all,


Warning, some of Don`s animation will be seen in this video,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww0KmN2b3pA

Warning, some of Don`s animation will be seen in this video,

liblinksli Not sure why we'd need a warning for that... I'd assume that for most people, that's the reason we'd be interested. n.n;

I was pretty surprised when I listened to the bgm at first. But I noticed the interesting match. I adore how it's not music-video like but instead a chronology. I thought it was better in this case.

Speaking of Don's work, I just played a game Bluth fans might (or should) recognize. Ever heard of Dragon's Lair?

That's pretty interesting bgm, cool video. :)

Speaking of Don's work, I just played a game Bluth fans might (or should) recognize. Ever heard of Dragon's Lair?

I played that when it was new. Only got to do that maybe once, cause Laserdisc lisucksli. The disc players break down all the time, especially the old original ones from the early 80s. The animation was definitely good, but the game mechanics were awkward at best. Probably why the guy that designed the game hasn't done anything since that anyone cares about. Laserdisc-based games were fairly plentiful from roughly 82-84. They all suffered from the various evils of Laserdisc, such as amazingly unreliable players, laser rot, and such. By the late 80s, you didn't see any of them anymore, cause they all were either broken or in the hands of collectors.

Back on topic, that is a nifty video, though I'd rather have had something Led Zeppelin or such as background music. I should watch some of those films at some point, probably. Would give me a bit of a break from watching old anime.

Warning, some of Don`s animation will be seen in this video,

liblinksli Not sure why we'd need a warning for that... I'd assume that for most people, that's the reason we'd be interested. n.n;

Sorry Simon, to me I loved the find of this, and may have been overjoyed,

I've looked over the image a few times and it really caught my interest. Plus the song "No Milk Today" was stuck in my head for the whole day :?

I've never seen or even heard of the 3 films before SoN. They seemed rather serious and dark compared to the films later on. I really can't judge non Disney animation just with this 'cause there's a lot more aside from the ones in the video (I bet). But it seemed like as it became closer to the present the focus is on more humans and less animals with a few exceptions in between. Also, it seemed that overall the films seemed deeper and darker (as in image) at first, even non-Disney animation seems to become rather "happier" and more colorful later on. But non-Disney movies seem to have a deeper image overall compared to Disney films. Although I find this ironic, I think Disney is aiming their animation to children more than non-Disney companies are. But the flow of colors and image go the same path with both Disney and non-Disney.

From the end of the 1970s to the beginning of the 1980s, the films (NIMH being a transition) are rather serious, and deep, then from the mid-1980s the movies turn its course into brighter films, and in the 1990s movies changed into an overall different topic: people.

I know I'm thinking too deeply and plus there's other things like countries of origin (the first or first few seem to be British movies). But I kinda wanted to write my observation of animated movies through time.

(NOTE: When I use sensory detail in my observation, keep in mind that technology is possibly another reason for these changes I mentioned above although I didn't really include the topic)

I've heard of half of these films, while the other half I never knew existed.

The Last Unicorn is considered one of the best classics by a lot of people, though I've never seen it.

The Last Unicorn is considered one of the best classics by a lot of people, though I've never seen it.

I've recently learned that the Japanese animation group that worked on the Last Unicorn went on to work on the first Ghibli film as they ere invited by Miyazaki. I've never seen the film either although the clips that I've found makes the film seem rather interesting. They have some beautiful scenes. (Although questionable in terms of character movement and sound)

I was actually particularily interested in Watership Down and the Last Unicorn when I saw the video. They both look really "deep" if you know what I mean.

Speaking of Miyazaki, I just rented Spirited Away from my college library and intend to watch it this weekend.

The Last Unicorn is considered one of the best classics by a lot of people, though I've never seen it.

I've recently learned that the Japanese animation group that worked on the Last Unicorn went on to work on the first Ghibli film as they ere invited by Miyazaki. I've never seen the film either although the clips that I've found makes the film seem rather interesting. They have some beautiful scenes. (Although questionable in terms of character movement and sound)

I was actually particularily interested in Watership Down and the Last Unicorn when I saw the video. They both look really "deep" if you know what I mean.

Out of all of them I have never seen The Last Unicorn, I hear much about it.
Watership Down is taken from the book by Richard Adams and is a very mature animated movie with some graphic life and death fights, still a great story, it reminds me of Ralph Bakshi`s animated classic "Lord of the Rings".
To me Watership Down is still one of my favorites just a notch or two under The Secret of NIMH.

The Last Unicorn is considered one of the best classics by a lot of people, though I've never seen it.

I've recently learned that the Japanese animation group that worked on the Last Unicorn went on to work on the first Ghibli film as they ere invited by Miyazaki. I've never seen the film either although the clips that I've found makes the film seem rather interesting. They have some beautiful scenes. (Although questionable in terms of character movement and sound)

I was actually particularily interested in Watership Down and the Last Unicorn when I saw the video. They both look really "deep" if you know what I mean.

I couldn't get into Watership Down. For some reason something just turned me off from it.

One 80s non-disney animated film was "Rock & Rule" from Canada. It made very few theatric appearances and little to no marketing, which pretty much left it censored on network television. It may have been quite grim and weird, but the music and animation were very awsome. Thanks to some kind folks in the DVD market, you can buy a special edition with all sorts of extras and remastered format of it. :D
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There was also a 70s non-disney film (in fact the director is very anti-Disney and holds a personal disliking to them) called "Wizards" which has decent animation, not as fluid as the films we have seen in the films in this video. However, after looking at how the movie was made, the incredibly low budget it ran on, and the many struggling efforts of the artists putting it together really puts into picture how dedicated some people are at making an animated film, without the fansy marketing and business. Also, don't let the PG rating or the "Playhouse" logo fool you. This film is incredibly grim and dark than what it's art is credited for.
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One 80s non-disney animated film was "Rock & Rule" from Canada. It made very few theatric appearances and little to no marketing, which pretty much left it censored on network television. It may have been quite grim and weird, but the music and animation were very awsome. Thanks to some kind folks in the DVD market, you can buy a special edition with all sorts of extras and remastered format of it. :D
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[url=]http://youtube.com/watch?v=3kPP45npLaQ[]http://youtube.com/watch?v=3kPP45npLaQ[/url]

There was also a 70s non-disney film (in fact the director is very anti-Disney and holds a personal disliking to them) called "Wizards" which has decent animation, not as fluid as the films we have seen in the films in this video. However, after looking at how the movie was made, the incredibly low budget it ran on, and the many struggling efforts of the artists putting it together really puts into picture how dedicated some people are at making an animated film, without the fansy marketing and business. Also, don't let the PG rating or the "Playhouse" logo fool you. This film is incredibly grim and dark than what it's art is credited for.
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[url=]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jcCnzWQF2LI[]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jcCnzWQF2LI[/url]

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Both of those are impressive. I've only seen the cover of [i]Wizard[/i] and never the film.

The other one--Iggy Pop is pretty well known. Never knew they had a part with an animated film.

The other one--Iggy Pop is pretty well known. Never knew they had a part with an animated film.

The music they made for the movie, as well with the other bands that had a hand in this film, was never released on any known CDs or tracks as there has yet to be a released soundtrack for this movie. Have you seen this film? :)

Also, I put the youtube trailers at the bottom of each picture to get a better look at them. ^^

Speaking of Don's work, I just played a game Bluth fans might (or should) recognize. Ever heard of Dragon's Lair?

I was told that it wasn't a very good game.. Someone on Youtube reviewed it saying how bad the controls were..

There was also a 70s non-disney film (in fact the director is very anti-Disney and holds a personal disliking to them) called "Wizards" which has decent animation, not as fluid as the films we have seen in the films in this video. However, after looking at how the movie was made, the incredibly low budget it ran on, and the many struggling efforts of the artists putting it together really puts into picture how dedicated some people are at making an animated film, without the fansy marketing and business. Also, don't let the PG rating or the "Playhouse" logo fool you. This film is incredibly grim and dark than what it's art is credited for.
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Ralph Bakshi`s animated works has always been noted for being dark, and as the case with the Wizard, he threw in a little sex also as with some other of his works , to me he is an animater for adult themes, Lord of the Rings was to me the best of his works.
More darker than NIMH, and Watershipdown :wink:

The other one--Iggy Pop is pretty well known. Never knew they had a part with an animated film.

The music they made for the movie, as well with the other bands that had a hand in this film, was never released on any known CDs or tracks as there has yet to be a released soundtrack for this movie. Have you seen this film? :)

Also, I put the youtube trailers at the bottom of each picture to get a better look at them. ^^

I've never seen the film, but I know of Iggy Pop.

I was told that it wasn't a very good game.. Someone on Youtube reviewed it saying how bad the controls were..

I haven't dealt with it in an arcade or console, but I have bought the DVD version (as well with the sequal and Space Ace) where you can play it via television remote. I've gotten pretty far, but I never reach the end. I mostly watch the video that has all the animated sequences edited together to make a short movie of the whole game you play.

To me, it's about heavy concentration and thinking fast, and A LOT of replays in order to get used to most of the levels (Trust me, this game tricks you more ways than one!). It must have stunk to put in quarters for each time you died when it was still in the arcades, and I do hear the controles were a little 'shakey' but it got a fairly positive fanbase, so I've heard. Most of the negativity seems to be with the short life-span of the machines and the overall difficulty of the game.

Still, it's Don's fluid animation, and I just enjoy it. 8)

I was told that it wasn't a very good game.. Someone on Youtube reviewed it saying how bad the controls were..

I haven't dealt with it in an arcade or console, but I have bought the DVD version (as well with the sequal and Space Ace) where you can play it via television remote. I've gotten pretty far, but I never reach the end. I mostly watch the video that has all the animated sequences edited together to make a short movie of the whole game you play.

Yea the guy on Youtube said that how bad the controls were.. also he said how the guy moves so slow and he really had a real bad time getting past the dragon at front of the casle.. It took him like 10 times or more..

The dragon? you mean that thing in the first scene? I got through that part in fewer than 10 tries (more like 4 or 5).
Still, I admit it was a difficult game.

The dragon? you mean that thing in the first scene? I got through that part in fewer than 10 tries (more like 4 or 5).
Still, I admit it was a difficult game.

Eeehh, first scene? Hold on, Which Dragon's Lair Game are we reffering to here?

The one for modern consoles? (Dragon's Lair 3D)
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Or the all-2D animated arcade, PC, DVD, Nintendo DS stuff?
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I don't think I'll go into detail with the Gameboy, Super Nintedo, or Sega CD releases since nobody bothers digging those up. :roll: The dragons's name is Singe, by the way. :D
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I was talking about the original game for the NES.. Here's the review if anyone is interested in seeing it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCdQvhugFDU

Oh that old thing. I guess I shouldn't have quickly pardoned the ancient Nintendo releases so soon after all. Though, it's not the 'original game'. The whole thing started out as an animated arcade game, spawned about two sequals, was about to be a movie until the games sunk, and has been striving for console releases of different kinds since then.

Yeah, I've seen quite a bit of reviews on that game, and they all agree, that version of the game is incredibly bad. However, I haven't played this one at all. And despite me being a huge fan of the Dragon's Lair franchise, I think I'm not even going to touch it. I really don't know what went on through Don and his teams' heads when they made that. :?

...Then again, I used to say the same thing about Dragon's Lair 3D until I got the hang of it. I usually have a nack for liking games that the general gaming community tend down-rate, anyway.

Yea that game was pretty bad.. So I take it Don wasn't invoved in that one.. Or was he..

Yea that game was pretty bad.. So I take it Don wasn't invoved in that one.. Or was he..

Um... Dom's been involved in a fair number of bad movies (and I don't mean underappreciated, I mean bad). Like Pebble and the Penguin, for instance. So, unfortunately, Dom doesn't have the Midas touch when it comes to his projects, though I'm not sure how much creative control he had with them either.

I honestly didn't think Pebble and the Penguin was that bad, but I can't believe I used to watch Rock-a-Doodle, let alone like it. But that's beside the point.

I don't think it was the dragon. It was some creature in the moat in the very first scene. The version I was playing appears to be the original version of the game (albeit not on laserdisk).

The version I was playing appears to be the original version of the game (albeit not on laserdisk).

Each game that was released to different consoles after the release of the laserdisk version in 1983 has it's own different blend of effects, twists in levels and gameplay. Your version was in 1989.

Yea that game was pretty bad.. So I take it Don wasn't invoved in that one.. Or was he..

Um... Dom's been involved in a fair number of bad movies (and I don't mean underappreciated, I mean bad). Like Pebble and the Penguin, for instance. So, unfortunately, Dom doesn't have the Midas touch when it comes to his projects, though I'm not sure how much creative control he had with them either.

Titan AE comes to mind here...it was pretty disappointing, and not just because the main characters were human.

As I mentioned, I played the original laserdisc arcade game in 1983, and found it annoyingly difficult, with very twitchy controls. So after that, I usually just watched other people drop absurd piles of quarters into the darn thing. Watching the animation was a lot more fun than actually playing the game.

Yea that game was pretty bad.. So I take it Don wasn't invoved in that one.. Or was he..

Um... Dom's been involved in a fair number of bad movies (and I don't mean underappreciated, I mean bad). Like Pebble and the Penguin, for instance. So, unfortunately, Dom doesn't have the Midas touch when it comes to his projects, though I'm not sure how much creative control he had with them either.

Titan AE comes to mind here...it was pretty disappointing, and not just because the main characters were human.

I must agree, I bought Titan AE in the Wal-Mart $5 dollor bin, Don is awesome in animation, but I think he has run into trouble from time to time and made some stinkers, such is life, but there were times he gave Disney a run for their money.

Reminds of the early days of animation, everybody remembers Walt Disney as the father of animation, but in those early days there were others, as Walt was working on this new thing "animation" at the same time in the 1930`s Dave and Max Fleischer was making animated movies of their own, tho not a great impact, they have their place in animation history in my book good or bad along with Don Bulth.

Alright so I borrowed the Last Unicorn from a friend and saw Anastasia after that. The Last Unicorn was honestly, an strange movie... I really saw where Ghibli got their start :?. I've always thought a lot of Ghibli characters (although not all) are too eccentric for my taste, the Last Unicorn basically epitomizes my views considering how some of the animators ended up being the first Ghibli animators. I've used this statement a lot when I review this film.. It's that "The only thing /beautiful/ about the film is the Unicorn and that's it..."

Anastasia is a VERY good movie though. For one the plot moves VERY smoothly unlike a lot of animated films. It's those films where you finish it, and think (or look) back at the beginning and see how the characters change a lot in such a short amount of time, very nicely. The colors, the music, and all that of the scenes in St. Petersburg (beginning) and Paris (end) are very different but there's nothing strange or awkward about it. It's really hard to put a whole story into an 100 minute film and I have to say Anastasia did that really well. The only (possible) flaw is that some of the characters are too realistic looking for animation which causes some awkwardness. Like the characters of "Thumbelina", of which their faces look WAY too realistic when they sing.

I looked at some clips and trailers of Water Ship Down. I haven't seen the film from beginning to end but... WHAT IN THE NAME OF ??? IS THIS? Was my impression. Not because it looked bad or anything (it really didn't). Just too bloody and gore for animation...

My conclusion would have to be that I've basically given up searching for the most perfect animation film. It really is impossible.

Yea that game was pretty bad.. So I take it Don wasn't invoved in that one.. Or was he..

Um... Dom's been involved in a fair number of bad movies (and I don't mean underappreciated, I mean bad). Like Pebble and the Penguin, for instance. So, unfortunately, Dom doesn't have the Midas touch when it comes to his projects, though I'm not sure how much creative control he had with them either.

Titan AE comes to mind here...it was pretty disappointing, and not just because the main characters were human.

I must agree, I bought Titan AE in the Wal-Mart $5 dollor bin, Don is awesome in animation, but I think he has run into trouble from time to time and made some stinkers, such is life, but there were times he gave Disney a run for their money.

To tell you the truth, I never found anything wrong with Titan A.E. I mean sure it got lousy reviews and didn't seem to be as exciting as Don's other films, but deeply interested in Sci-Fi as I am, I thought it was interesting. :) However, I have t urge Bluth or whoever's responsible (probably some nut-job from FOX) for making written texts and statements of comparing this film to Star Wars to just STOP. Seriously, you are getting in way over your heads with stuff like this, and having "If you like Star Wars, you're going to love this." on the front case of every released VHS and DVD just make the movie sound like it's desperate for attention and just all-out pompous.

The Drej species were an excellent group of villains and cold-hearted supremists of the cosmos, even though their character and background is mostly 'blacked out' in the film. (Luckily we have the movie's novelization for that :wink: ) I'm also not as irked that the characters were human, and I didn't think they were all that annoying as some people claim them to be. I think Don does just fine with human characters just as much as his animal characters........Okay, not exactly "just as much", but close to it.

Then again, I also like Don's other not-so-well-liked films such as Rock-A-Doodle and All Dogs Go to Heaven. Perhaps I'm not in any position to stick up

To tell you the truth, I never found anything wrong with Titan A.E. I mean sure it got lousy reviews and didn't seem to be as exciting as Don's other films, but deeply interested in Sci-Fi as I am, I thought it was interesting. :) However, I have t urge Bluth or whoever's responsible (probably some nut-job from FOX) for making written texts and statements of comparing this film to Star Wars to just STOP. Seriously, you are getting in way over your heads with stuff like this, and having "If you like Star Wars, you're going to love this." on the front case of every released VHS and DVD just make the movie sound like it's desperate for attention and just all-out pompous.

The Drej species were an excellent group of villains and cold-hearted supremists of the cosmos, even though their character and background is mostly 'blacked out' in the film. (Luckily we have the movie's novelization for that :wink: ) I'm also not as irked that the characters were human, and I didn't think they were all that annoying as some people claim them to be. I think Don does just fine with human characters just as much as his animal characters........Okay, not exactly "just as much", but close to it.

Then again, I also like Don's other not-so-well-liked films such as Rock-A-Doodle and All Dogs Go to Heaven. Perhaps I'm not in any position to stick up

I happen to be a sci-fi fan as well, but there's no way Titan AE cuts it for me. Ok, so Babylon 5 really raised the bar, but still... it just wasn't good enough. Maybe some of that background you mention would've really helped give the villains some character, but it just doesn't licountli if it's only in the novelization.

As to the human characters, I didn't say I thought Don did a bad job with them at all (though it wasn't great). I just happen to prefer stories/movies/(insert media here) with anthropomorphic characters instead :P

I happen to be a sci-fi fan as well, but there's no way Titan AE cuts it for me. Ok, so Babylon 5 really raised the bar, but still... it just wasn't good enough. Maybe some of that background you mention would've really helped give the villains some character, but it just doesn't licountli if it's only in the novelization.

I don't know; I suppose novelizations do tend to change things in literature form than in movies to the point it may differ to the film's own story. However, the story for Titan wasn't all that altered, just gave more information on certain things with a little more content. Although,...the novel does spell Preed's name wrong through the entire story after he makes his first appearance (name spelled correctly the first time). x.x'

I guess that whole "sci-fi fan" thing doesn't really imply much defense for the film. XP I never liked Babylon 5, to tell you the truth. >.> I guess what I really mean is that I like almost anything sci-fi regardless if it's well-liked or not. I even take satisfaction old B-movies in attempts and attempt to make sense out of the senselessness in them. A weird form of entertainment, I know, but I guess we're all different people. In other words, I'm just a sucker for this stuff. 8)

As to the human characters, I didn't say I thought Don did a bad job with them at all (though it wasn't great). I just happen to prefer stories/movies/(insert media here) with anthropomorphic characters instead :P

Ah, I see. I happen to prefer anthromorphic characters over humans too. :P In fact, anthros have always been my favorite characters. Human main characters usually bore me to death, depending on the story. usually it's a novel or movie that has large portions of non-human beings in them that keeps me pooled in. (I barely have a single movie or book that doesn't have any such content otherwise)

Do not misunderstand Titan AE in the Wal-Mart $5 dollor bin was a great find to me :)

Do not misunderstand Titan AE in the Wal-Mart $5 dollor bin was a great find to me :)

I'll agree, as I unfortunately paid full price to watch it in the theater. Wasn't really worth the money spent ($8 for a ticket, $12 for lousy food).

I did enjoy Rock-a-Doodle the first time I saw it, but over the years I soon tired of it. But that wasn't before I pressured my parents to get it on tape.
By the time the DVD came out, though, I had apparently outgrown the movie. Can't explain why.

Do not misunderstand Titan AE in the Wal-Mart $5 dollor bin was a great find to me :)

I'll agree, as I unfortunately paid full price to watch it in the theater. Wasn't really worth the money spent ($8 for a ticket, $12 for lousy food).

That is a lot for snacks, we would sneak our own goodies in for the show, their prices were a rip,
Yeh nothing like a good price to see a movie, but pay a kings ransom for snacks :shock:

What costs 75 cents in a machine, theaters will sell for at least $5.
That is just thievery.

interesting little tid bit. i enjoyed it and the movies on it i have seen them all but one plague dogs. they all where interesting. but now you have made me wonder what plague dogs is about.

interesting little tid bit. i enjoyed it and the movies on it i have seen them all but one plague dogs. they all where interesting. but now you have made me wonder what plague dogs is about.

That`s one I never seen myself :roll:

OMG I just watched clips from that Rock and Rule movie and that is the darkest, trippiest creepiest most unnervingly disturbing animated thing I have ever seen next to Fritz the Cat! JEEZUS that is not a movie for kids and I find the human creatures with odd looking noses extremely disturbing, especially the main character rockstar dude and the blonde chick. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with their faces... the movie's animation looks good and I think I'll try to find it and watch it just for the name, 'ROCK N' RULLLEEE!!!!' but that is a seriously twisted creepy animation project, what are those Canadians smoking??? I guess I can blame it on the 80s... what a decade...

OMG I just watched clips from that Rock and Rule movie and that is the darkest, trippiest creepiest most unnervingly disturbing animated thing I have ever seen next to Fritz the Cat! JEEZUS that is not a movie for kids and I find the human creatures with odd looking noses extremely disturbing, especially the main character rockstar dude and the blonde chick. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with their faces... the movie's animation looks good and I think I'll try to find it and watch it just for the name, 'ROCK N' RULLLEEE!!!!' but that is a seriously twisted creepy animation project, what are those Canadians smoking??? I guess I can blame it on the 80s... what a decade...

Actually, the characters aren't supposed to be human at all, really. The movie takes place far into the future after a nuclear war that left the earth with mutants as you see before you. Yeah, just one of the aspects that make this film pretty weird. :P Still, I thought it was good.

the movie's animation looks good and I think I'll try to find it and watch it just for the name, 'ROCK N' RULLLEEE!!!!' but that is a seriously twisted creepy animation project, what are those Canadians smoking??? I guess I can blame it on the 80s... what a decade...

Like the trailer said: "Good band, hot music, the best of times...It could have all lasted forever." Yep, that's the 80s for you, and man were they great. 8)

Allright, so who's seen Fritz the Cat?

Mind you it's x-rated... yeah, that's right... X-rated!!! If you've ever seen it you'll see why... It's a pretty flililied up cartoon, and that's about the nicest way I can put it accurately...

Allright, so who's seen Fritz the Cat?

Mind you it's x-rated... yeah, that's right... X-rated!!! If you've ever seen it you'll see why... It's a pretty flililied up cartoon, and that's about the nicest way I can put it accurately...

Yes I`ve seen it, in the 1970`s I believe, I thought it was cute at the time, (Veitnam, Hippies and all), but as I got older, well... Needless to say people change and animation becomes an art of great drawings and stories and not a abuse to let lose our dark drives.

Allright, so who's seen Fritz the Cat?

Mind you it's x-rated... yeah, that's right... X-rated!!! If you've ever seen it you'll see why... It's a pretty flililied up cartoon, and that's about the nicest way I can put it accurately...

It's probably not something that needs to be discussed in length here, either. lihintli

Allright, so who's seen Fritz the Cat?

Mind you it's x-rated... yeah, that's right... X-rated!!! If you've ever seen it you'll see why... It's a pretty flililied up cartoon, and that's about the nicest way I can put it accurately...

It's probably not something that needs to be discussed in length here, either. lihintli

For that matter I'd like to request something here after a recent topic that I've seen here...

I probably don't have the right to say this but as a long time fan of this forum and the website,
I would like to ask anyone to not even mention about the things that occur in the inappropriate world out there, especially if it's NIMH related.

I've experienced a time in which related thoughts did not get out of my head because of a minor incident, and that came from a dream... And believe me, it wasn't exactly pleasant...

Although I'd be lying if I said I have absolutely no curiosity if there's anything like that within the fandom of the film I love and am interested in, I don't think this site is the place to mention those things.

I never seen fritze dont think i want to.

I never seen fritze dont think i want to.

You and me both. I think I'll pass on that one.

Oookay, taking our attention off of unwanted content for a bit, I'd like to direct you all to another non-Disney movie called "The Cockpit", directed by anime directors Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Takashi Imanishi, and Ryosuke Takashi. Technically it is set up as a series of some kind, but it only has three episodes ever made, so it's pretty much a DVD/VHS with three different stories to it. I'd call it a movie, wouldn't you agree?
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Anyway, it all takes place in World War 2, and the three stories are through the eyes of a German pilot, the second with a Kamikazi pilot, and the other with two Japanese soliders struggling through a battlefield succombing to American control. Both have some pretty fluid animation and great detail of WW2 warfare. Though, I'll admit, the art starts to get a little 'cartoony' in the second and third episodes. (I also found out that it's pretty hard to find, and it makes me proud to own a VHS copy of it. :P)

Also, here's a clip from the first tale in the movie just to give you a gimpse.
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It's probably not something that needs to be discussed in length here, either. lihintli

Way ahead of ya, Simon! ;)

lips are zipped about such matters. HENCEFORTH LET US NOT SPEAK OF IT. sorry I brought it up... just one of those dark topics that one is occasionally tempted to bring up.

Hey, anyone want to talk about Horcruxes? liarrested and locked away in Azkaban, never heard from again...li

Okay then, um.... WHO HERE HAS HEARD OF DUST? liclubbed in back of head by Magisteriumli

I saw the movie that last reference was for...twice. I'm in the middle of reading the books. Love the world he Pullman has created so far.

Allright, so who's seen Fritz the Cat?

Mind you it's x-rated... yeah, that's right... X-rated!!! If you've ever seen it you'll see why... It's a pretty flililied up cartoon, and that's about the nicest way I can put it accurately...

It's probably not something that needs to be discussed in length here, either. lihintli

If all you people got out of Fritz the Cat was cartoon animals having sex, you completely missed the point of that movie. For the sake of Simon, I'll leave it at that.

About "The Cockpit": It seems the 'episode' movie is a pretty common thing for anime. I know of at least three other 'movies' where different artists would take a stab at a common thread.

There's Neo-Tokyo, which was an old eighties anime with anime legends Rin Taro, Kawajiri and Otomo each making their own short film. There's Memories, a more recent flick, which is three stories by Otomo each directed by a different anime director, including one by Otomo himself. Finally there's one called Robot Carnival, also done back in the late eighties, which has a whole slew of different people creating short films about robotics...including Otomo. :P