At the end of the movie
DarthCraftus
25-09-2006 18:28:10
I know this movie has a happy ending, but whenever "The Secret of NIMH" ends, I'm not left feeling happy. Oh, I don't feel sad, it's more of a bittersweet kind of feeling. What about you guys;same thing?
Yeah, pretty much, it takes a lot of activity, emotion, action, and comedy for a movie to actually make me feel "happy" or 'wish that it was never over'.
Nimhster
25-09-2006 18:41:39
Not really. I find the ending good in many ways.
DarthCraftus
26-09-2006 06:52:34
I'm not really sure. I guess it's the overall feel of the movie that gets me this way. That and the fact that I never want it to end.
NIMHmaniac
26-09-2006 11:53:01
Hi DarthCraftus,
I think I know what you're feeling. I myself felt the same way when I saw the movie for the first time. I would guess that it has to do with the fact that even though the film has a dark, almost brooding tone in general, the way that the story is told really hooks you and you feel that you are part of the story. This is not a bad thing and believe me, of all the animated features that I've seen over the years, few if any have totally captivated me like this one has. Indeed I'll confess to being something of a multiple offender as far as seeing SON is concerned. I saw it over fifty times in the theatre and that was before I bought my first VHS copy of the film to watch at home. Even now, twenty-four years later, I have to admit that this film still has an emotional hold on me and I still find myself wanting to see it over and over again. Thanks to DVD's, I can do just that without fear of wearing out the tape as could happen with your typical Video-cassette. I know that I've digressed from the main topic at hand, but I think that you get the picture don't you??
Peace :D
NIMHmaniac
I get that same feeling too, but I think with me its more of a 'i wanna know what happened next' feeling. It's such a happy ending, yes, but what all happened /after/ the movie? did the Brisby's ever go to Thorn Valley? Did Justin and the rats make it alive? Did Timmy ever get to go outside again? Those unanswered questions start to nag at me, and i just wanna know. So, yeah, in some way, i do get that same feeling you do.
leejakobson
26-09-2006 15:29:43
i have always felt that the end of the movie was not simply a happy ending but one that was suposed to leave you with with a disire tosee more and leave you feeling a multitude of emotions. i have felt that this film is a beutiful one that leaves many unanswered question and the viewer with feelings of sadness happyness and wonder all at once it is a film that simply can not be explained.
Nimhster
26-09-2006 16:56:38
I thought it was a pretty happy ending. The house was moved, Timothy was recovering from his illness and Miss Right and Jeremy had found each other. :)
Cedric
26-09-2006 17:34:28
To answer Tod's question, he can watch SoN2. If you want to get answers without having seizures, check some fanfics. It's all for you to decide. With the exception of Nicodemus' death, I liked the ending of the movie. That is, until I watch the ending credits, when the music makes me cry.
Mum I think it's more like a "There's something missing" feeling.. You know like you expect something to happen but it doesn't.. Like you know they can't but you expect Justin and Brisby to hook up (or at least have a kissing scene) but they don't.. Or maybe it's the way it ends, you know with Brisby and the children sitting around the garden. I expected something else..
Nimhster
27-09-2006 17:10:18
Mum I think it's more like a "There's something missing" feeling.. You know like you expect something to happen but it doesn't.. Like you know they can't but you expect Justin and Brisby to hook up (or at least have a kissing scene) but they don't.. Or maybe it's the way it ends, you know with Brisby and the children sitting around the garden. I expected something else..
A kissing scene was also what I thought of too, yet it would be very interesting and I was wondering what would Auntie shrew want when she called for Mrs. Brisby. Was she going to tell her something important, or is she going to tell her about the rats? :? It was a mystery once I first saw the ending.
Whiskers57
28-09-2006 19:45:29
I find the ending bittersweet, a feeling of joy, but also that it is not over yet and there is more to be told in this story, I later read the book that helped, but I felt the NIMH saga was not over even then, it can`t just stop here. I found once I hit the internet that fan-fic`s and fan-art was doing just that, taking this great story and moving it on, in a lot of different paths and that was awesome to me, and many thanks to those who have worked hard on fan-fics/art and sites, a love of the movie and the book is the mainstay to such hard work.
SirShane
30-09-2006 03:34:10
As great as the film's ending is, it leaves a lot open for speculation. The book is really the same way. There isn't much of a feeling of closure. What happened to the rats? What all happened on the night of the house moving, after Mrs. Brisby fainted? What is the history of the stone? Do the Brisby family visit the rats later on? I could probably go on.
The main theme of the film is of a mother's struggle to save her children. The film's ending definately brings closure to that - but there are plenty of plot elements that are not explained. It's too bad we don't have a real sequel. There is plenty of room for one.
leejakobson
30-09-2006 14:09:21
actually when i saw the movie i liked the ending because it left alot open for a sequel it really made me look forward to a sequel. but the sequel they left shot my dreams oof another equally great story down the drain "sigh" oh well
Nimhster
09-10-2006 16:40:04
I must say this, I need to see NIMH 2 so i can see if it sucks, or its good. If anybody knows where I can watch it for free on some websites, I'll give my thoughts on the film.
Cedric
09-10-2006 18:15:40
Are you really that desperate? :shock:
I must say this, I need to see NIMH 2 really bad so i can see if it sucks, or its good. If anybody knows where I can watch it for free on some websites, I'll give my results in for the movie.
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-Nimhster 8)
Here where I stand, as a movie it is not bad but as a seqal to NIMH, well lets say it's a let down. In the begining it has a made up flashback with Nicodemus saying that he had a production that a child of Brisby will save the rats and then it goes to the farm. There, all the characters were changed.. Chinthia had been reduced to a marshmillow, all fat and her fur had been changed to the cute gray to a ugly yellow. Teresa, well she looks like she should be in "The Sound of Music".. She has the dress, the hair, everything.. Martin for the most part was himself, well not counting the "Evil Martin" part.. Oh let's not forget Hippie Brisby.. The only one that hadn't changed is Ages..
Not to mention the story, they seem to have changed it. The good thing about it is that you see the inside of NIMH..
Cedric
10-10-2006 16:58:04
Ages' dress, no they haven't changed it. But he is noticeably less a grouch in the sequel, which ruins the character established for him in SoN. And yes, you do see the inside of NIMH. Until it is destroyed in what some say is a ripoff of Die-Hard (I've never seen that movie, I've only seen the last half of its sequel). Other than that, if you keep your sanity throughout the Evil Martin stuff, you'll be alright.
Also, Jayn is right. There are worse movies than SoN2. It really isn't that bad of a movie itself, IMO. The problem is, it didn't come anywhere near the quality of the original.
Nimhster
11-10-2006 08:16:27
Are you really that desperate? :shock:
I can't believe I'm going to say this but yes, I am. I want to know if it's actually good or bad.
Oh there is one thing I forgot to mention.. In NIMH 2 Jeremy pretends to be the Great Owl and charging people "sparklys" for adice.. And he has this catapeter as a partner it seems, really ignoying character..
Cedric
11-10-2006 15:23:13
Jeremy was not pretending to be the great owl. The caterpillar was bothering the rats and Jeremy ate him. The guy was some sort of con artist I think. :wink:
"Uh yes he was.." liJay then looks around smilingli
But you are right on the caterpiller being a con artist..
Thursday
29-11-2006 18:23:23
Yeah I know Im a pretty bad offender when It comes to bumping older topics :P
The Secret of NIMH's ending is..well its hard to explain how it makes me feel. Since the first time I watched it as an adult, and this is really hard for me to admit openly, the movie has left me in a very depressed state. The more I think about it, the worse it makes me feel sometimes. The ending is happy, but really I feel like Im missing something here. Maybe I feel sympathy for Mrs. Brisby and all she had to go thru, just to save her family. The story doesn't feel complete and it really grinds at me. There has to be something more to it than what Im seeing.
I refuse to see NIMH2, I learned my lesson after watching TLK2 and 1 1/2 haha. I heard it was just another movie that followed the Disney formula and had a song around every turn :( Besides, I kinda don't wanna see Mrs. Brisby portrayed as being old, I wanna remember her young.
Simon
29-11-2006 20:19:59
The Secret of NIMH's ending is..well its hard to explain how it makes me feel. Since the first time I watched it as an adult, and this is really hard for me to admit openly, the movie has left me in a very depressed state. The more I think about it, the worse it makes me feel sometimes. The ending is happy, but really I feel like Im missing something here. Maybe I feel sympathy for Mrs. Brisby and all she had to go thru, just to save her family. The story doesn't feel complete and it really grinds at me. There has to be something more to it than what Im seeing.
Well, if you read the book, it ends similarly, asking a lot more questions than it answers. And NIMH 2 doesn't really answer many of the interesting questions anyway, so if you were looking for satisfaction there, don't bother. ;)
I personally kinda like the ambiguity at the end; it lets the viewer imagine what might be... And, if you care to, you can look at
Robin's NIMH Fanfiction Archive[=http://robin.thornvalley.com/]Robin's NIMH Fanfiction Archive to see what other fans have come up with. Most of them are better than NIMH2, even. ;)
Slew724
29-11-2006 21:15:11
What I really like about TSON is how there's so much left to wonder and speculate about.
Thursday
29-11-2006 21:42:50
You two raise a very good point that I haven't really thought of. It seems that this movie does have a rather big following for an animated film that is nearly 25 years old. I think that the ambiguity of the ending leaves so much open for speculation and wonder, that fans to this day are still trying to figure out what happens. Where did the amulet come from, will Justin and Mrs. Brisby become more involved with each other, Does Nicodemus and the great owl have more in common than just being "dear comrades". These all seem like real good questions. Of course, Im talking about the movie version, altho Im sure that the second book might shead some light on a few things..
I have read some of the stories at Robin's NIMH Fanfiction Archive, and almost all of them are better than what I hear about NIMH 2 :wink:
Cedric
30-11-2006 17:02:53
Ah yes, Robin's. A good place to look for good quality sequels that probably won't make it to the tube, sadly. You can always find good stuff at her site. :)
David Leemhuis
26-10-2010 12:50:49
Wow...just about everyone brings up the point that the ending of "TSoN" left viewers wondering "...and then...?" Thursday's feeling that "there has to be something more to it" I can especially relate to. Plot elements left unexplained, much to wonder and speculate on. What more could I add?
Alucard5200
27-10-2010 15:41:17
I must say this, I need to see NIMH 2 really bad so i can see if it sucks, or its good. If anybody knows where I can watch it for free on some websites, I'll give my results in for the movie.
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-Nimhster 8)
Trust me, NIMH 2 sucks pretty hard, but if you have to see it, someone uploaded it on Youtube. Here's the link to this horrible excuse of a sequel
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXqKVTDchH8
And the wierd thing is, they're showing this abomination on disney, didn't they do that with the first film(odd,isn't it).
Whiskers57
31-10-2010 03:05:00
No more :shock:
What you all want is to drive me insane, NIMH 2 sucked, rub it in my face will ya.
Youtube this and Youtube that.
I`m going to a Parallel universe where NIMH2 was never made.
Nimhster
31-10-2010 14:05:03
Well now. The last time I posted in this topic, I was 13. Now I'm 17.
I could only watch the first-quarter of the movie since it blew so hard. I watched it about a year ago when I saw it for the first time.
Well, I'm back!
I promised myself I would be.
I wouldn't say the ending made me feel empty as such. However, I definatley felt relieved somehow that everything had worked out to some degree.
It left me with some questions, some fairly big ones I might add. Still, I found myself wanting to see more, having invested so much into the Brisby family and the rats. In the end, we leave the Brisby's in particular at a critical point.
There was just so much I wanted to know...
Jam-
Alucard5200
02-11-2010 17:44:21
Well now. The last time I posted in this topic, I was 13. Now I'm 17.
I could only watch the first-quarter of the movie since it blew so hard. I watched it about a year ago when I saw it for the first time.
We all told you it was bad,very bad
NIMH should've gotten a proper sequel or no sequel at all.
Whiskers57
07-11-2010 02:33:03
Well, I'm back!
I promised myself I would be.
I wouldn't say the ending made me feel empty as such. However, I definatley felt relieved somehow that everything had worked out to some degree.
It left me with some questions, some fairly big ones I might add. Still, I found myself wanting to see more, having invested so much into the Brisby family and the rats. In the end, we leave the Brisby's in particular at a critical point.
There was just so much I wanted to know...
Jam-
I wish more to this story, but what? everybody has tried to fill in the blanks, has good become of this?
Some fan-fics have did their best .
I wish more to this story, but what? everybody has tried to fill in the blanks, has good become of this?
Some fan-fics have did their best .
True, I suppose that is the blessing of such an open ending. Still, I will say this;
For all it's flaws, it's distastful connections with this, "That other film" I felt did have the right idea of focusing on the next generation. Of course that should have at least included
ALL of the next generation and not completely ignoring Mrs. Bris in such a way.
Jam-
shivermetimbers
07-12-2011 10:17:02
It does feel weird that the movie shifts from such a dramatic and tense overtone to happy kiddie ending mode in a matter of seconds. How did the rats recover from the devastation they've just witnessed? How do the kids react to their father's heritage? I could go on for hours and hours asking questions.
It does have a bittersweet feeling to it, it's satisfying, but at the same time it feels like half a story has been told, if you get what I'm saying.
Pennsylvania Jones
08-12-2011 11:17:23
It does have a bittersweet feeling to it, it's satisfying, but at the same time it feels like half a story has been told, if you get what I'm saying.
This.
Steven