Maximum NIMH's closing, and musings on NIMH fandom...

Live forum: http://www.thornvalley.com/commons/forum/viewtopic.php?t=446

Simon

15-06-2006 22:28:42

A few of you have asked me about what I thought about Maximum NIMH closing, and what my response would be. I'd like to say that I'm sad to see such an overall great NIMH site go, especially one with as much content as his had in it; the collectibles area was incredible, for instance. Although we have/had some philosophical differences in the past, I've admired the work that he put into it. Having maintained Thorn Valley for as long as I have, I can appreciate the hard work that goes into maintaining a large website. It will be missed, by myself and others.

As for its content, I have archived the parts of it that I wanted to keep available to myself--but not all of it. This archive will almost certainly remain private; there are a lot of issues with copyright and such that I don't want to deal with if I mirrored it, and in any case, I don't feel I could carry on the same feel of the site, anyway. It'd just be a mirror. An archive. Something that you could get by going to the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. Besides, I feel like I have my hands full already; hosting another NIMH site just isn't in the cards, and probably never will be, regardles of whose site it may be. I do hope that someone will pick up the torch, but it will have to be someone else. However, if there are fan artists that wish to host their fan art here, send me an email with samples and I'll see about putting it up if it is within the rules I have established.

The fandom has changed a lot since I started out with a "small" collection of screengrabs and miscellaneous content on Geocities, way back in '98 (at least). A lot of folks have moved on to other things. I imagine that--eventually--I may have to do the same. But not right now, of course. I still enjoy the occasional visit to other NIMH sites, though most of them are gathering dust, not having received updates in months or years now, and some are just dissapearing. The tight knit core of fans that were around back then has since moved on, with only a few stalwarts remaining. It's saddening to say the least.

On the other hand, I don't have a gloomy outlook for the fandom, either. I think that the nature of it has changed. People are no longer creating personal websites the same way they used to. Instead, they might post on one of the various NIMH-related forums, submit fan-art or fan-fiction (though I admit that there isn't nearly as much interest in fan-fics as there used to be, it seems), or (though I haven't seen much of it yet in the NIMH fandom, outside of NIMHmuck.org) start a blog. NIMHmuck still thrives, though it has its seasonal ups and downs.

I think that there's a lot that could be done for the NIMH community still. Perhaps someone would be willing to start a Wiki[=http://www.wikia.com/]start a Wiki--a lot of Badbird's content would fit quite well in that sort of setting, I think. Perhaps someone could start another website or blog or something. Trust me, I don't mind the "competition" if you can call it that. ;) You may surprise yourself; back in '98, if you told me that Thorn Valley would grow to be as huge as it is now, I would not have believed you. Back then, I could fit it on a 100MB Zip disk with plenty of room to spare. Now, the backup for Thorn Valley would need at least 2 CD-Rs. And, as I mentioned above, I'm not going to be around forever. Eventually, Thorn Valley will either fade away, as other sites have, or (more likely) change hands. It has been a rewarding venture for me, and I do plan on sticking with it for as long as I can, but already I can see the writing on the wall. Other things are slowly but surely beginning to assert their priority in my life. I don't mean that I will abandon the fandom completely, but I imagine that my role in it will become more and more passive as time goes on.

So, what does all this mean, anyway? Opportunity. I challenge you to pick up the torch others have lit and carry on with it. It all starts with an idea, and the desire to run with it.

A9

15-06-2006 23:27:37

i was sad to hear about Maximum Nimh too--definitely one of the more creative sites out there! And yeah, i went and downloaded about half the site too XD But i think all things have their time. Eventually people move on and stop doodling Nimh characters in their notebooks or scribbling fan-fics instead of notes during classes...except me, i'll probably be doing that forever XD

Anyhow, i agree there's still a lot of potential for this community to grow, and i too have hope that it'll always be around in some form or another. i'm so glad you're encouraging new sites! To be blunt (no offense meant to anyone) a few years ago the situation seemed quite different. There was always a sense of competition about things, and i think it inhibited people from wanting to join in. All fandoms have some amount of drama, and this one certainly had its fair share. i could see that even from the sidelines.

But it seems like with the lack of recent activity, things have somewhat of a fresh start. Perhaps this little lull in the community is just what it needed to start growing again. i certainly hope so... i've met some amazing friends through NIMH, and i hope there'll be a chance to meet more in the future :)

Nimhster

16-06-2006 11:43:34

He did say that he was closing the site someday in this month....
He also said you can download the Item of The month Items and of course, some typical BadBird humor, Life After Nimh the series. :wink:
So everyone only has a short amount of time to download everything before the site closes. This is a sad history for the Nimh sites Era.

Whiskers57

17-06-2006 08:01:04

Thanks for your thoughts on this Simon, I remember when I first saw your site and Bad Birds also, and saw the NIMHcon 2000 pics, at the time then a NIMH fan but I had no computer in the 1990`s and early 2000 (I saw no use for one at the time), now, I wished I`d jumped in sooner :?

There was only three maybe four of us active on Max NIMH`s message board at the time he broke the news, I was shocked, some how we think it will go on forever, but even those who start such things must move on in life, even if you love animation and great stories.

I love the fandom so much that I started my very first NIMH/animation site (simple that is is ), but I have not up dated since Jan, real life issues and such has bogged me, but this may give me the boost to get back on it . But I seem to be stuck in a rut at this time and stopped while doing my screen grabs from the DVD`s, any help to make my site better I would be most thankful.
My NIMH/animation site
http://www.freewebs.com/desmouse/

I am a fan of animation for the most part and I love to learn about the way it`s done and to see how it all works to make a visual story, the "Secret of NIMH" after over more than 20 years still rocks as the best in my book :wink:

Some have come close, but will never string my heart as this book and movie has done.

Nimhster

17-06-2006 11:45:40


I love the fandom so much that I started my very first NIMH/animation site (simple that is is ), but I have not up dated since Jan, real life issues and such has bogged me, but this may give me the boost to get back on it . But I seem to be stuck in a rut at this time and stopped while doing my screen grabs from the DVD`s, any help to make my site better I would be most thankful.
My NIMH/animation site
http://www.freewebs.com/desmouse/


Whiskers57, let's hope you and Simon don't have to close down your sites, that'd be awful! :shock:
_____________________________________________________________
-Nimhster 8)

Slew724

17-06-2006 12:08:00

I'll miss Maxiumum Nimh. I enjoyed looking at the SON merchandising items every month, and "Darkest Days" is the best NIMH fanfic ever written, IMHO.

Nimhster

20-06-2006 15:24:59

I'll miss Maxiumum Nimh. I enjoyed looking at the SON merchandising items every month, and "Darkest Days" is the best NIMH fanfic ever written, IMHO.


Everybody will Slew724. He just can't update it anymore and I'm sad to hear that.

Nimhster

19-07-2006 13:32:29

Deleted.................. :cry:

Jayn

20-07-2006 13:45:58

I'm still a bit mad about this, feel a bit let down of the news and the deletion. Guess it was the way I find out about it, you know, finding out through email when I sent him something..

Whiskers57

20-07-2006 19:36:27

I'm still a bit mad about this, feel a bit let down of the news and the deletion. Guess it was the way I find out about it, you know, finding out through email when I sent him something..


I know how you feel, another great Icon down, but look on the bright side, new and younger will come in to keep on the work of this fandom. :)

Nimhster

20-07-2006 19:44:00

Like my site that just opened? ( For example :roll: ). There will be more, it's just not that easy.