Rumors of SoN 3???

Okay, just to be clear, there is no current listing in ANY up and coming film database of a NIMH 3 currently in production, but it seems that back in 2001 there was some serious inquiry, possibly even some pre-poduction on a Secret of NIMH 3: The Beginning that dealt with Jonathan and the Rats of NIMH. I've prettymuch exhausted Google and everything else I can find, but all i've found is what i've told you.
My guess is that MGM dropped the project realizing it was a bad idea, but one never truly knows...
Anyway, I thought it might be an interesting topic.

I still think it was just someone who must've either gotten a little ahead of themselves or posted it as a joke. I've only seen information such as what you were talking about on normal message boards, and even they(the posters) didn't seem to be certain themselves.

I'm don't think this will ever happen unfortunately. Seeing how poorly NIMH 2 did, I doubt they'd make a third installment.

that's what i though initially, but now i'm not so sure. There are quite a few sites that list MGM as having made an SoN 3, but none have any information on it. I'm beginning to wonder if it was pulled for some reason, or something. I dunno.

There are quite a few sites that list MGM as having made an SoN 3, but none have any information on it. I'm beginning to wonder if it was pulled for some reason, or something. I dunno.

Care to give some links to these sites? As always, the source to both the information and the person responsible is always described as 'anonymous'; just the title of the project and the 'MGM' name next to it, no one listed as to who's involved or anyone who gave out the information, just another huge 'blank'.

It's no wonder IMdB took off the entry due to lack of proof. I really see no reason to beleive that there really was anything to start with. Of course there was Bluth's claim that there was "someone" who was making the so-called movie, but even he and his team never gave any other information, I even e-mailed them about the issue myself and they have yet to get back to me.

i dont know if this helps but i gave up hope on that because after i had email mgm about it they emailed me back saying they had never planed son3 nor do they see it comming in the near future because of the second movies floped. i think i can dig up the email but not sure i may have deleted it.

I knew this was covered elsewhere already:
http://www.thornvalley.com/commons/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16

In any case, AFAIK, the only thing that's changed since then is the removal of the IMDB page. Doesn't do much to support the theory of NIMH 3 coming out. Quite frankly, unless Don Bluth & co work on it and either use the story of the rats at NIMH or come up with a very compelling story of their own, I am not interested in seeing any sort of sequel.

C'mon, guys, if you're going to wish for something, let's hope for a NIMH special edition DVD with commentaries and stuff.

You know, the idea of seeing a prequel focusing on the rats and Jonathan and how they became the hyper-intelligent, sentient creatures we saw in the original would be kinda cool, I think.

Granted, the story would have to be well-done and the animation would need to be good, too, but I'd be willing to give such a film a chance if it ever was made.

<Shrugs> I dunno...I guess I just like seeing the story leading up to the story we know. I suffered through all three "Star Wars" prequels in the name of watching Anakin Skywalker fall to the Dark Side, Palpatine become Emperor, and learn just why everyone in the Thrawn Trilogy was so horrified by the prospect of a new clone army...If I can stand Jar-Jar, I think I could stomach whatever this never-actually-going-to-happen prequel would turn out to be. ;)

~Kieran

You know, the idea of seeing a prequel focusing on the rats and Jonathan and how they became the hyper-intelligent, sentient creatures we saw in the original would be kinda cool, I think.

Granted, the story would have to be well-done and the animation would need to be good, too, but I'd be willing to give such a film a chance if it ever was made.

<Shrugs> I dunno...I guess I just like seeing the story leading up to the story we know. I suffered through all three "Star Wars" prequels in the name of watching Anakin Skywalker fall to the Dark Side, Palpatine become Emperor, and learn just why everyone in the Thrawn Trilogy was so horrified by the prospect of a new clone army...If I can stand Jar-Jar, I think I could stomach whatever this never-actually-going-to-happen prequel would turn out to be. ;)

~Kieran

thrawn rocks he is my favorite star wars character. and i have to agree some of the things in star wars were lost the over all atmosfere that made star wars special generally was not thier in the prequels. although they did do a little better in episode 3.

Yea I brought this up on Max NIMH once and they too said the same. MGM was going to do a NIMH 3but dumped the idea when NIMH 2 bombed..

It should be clear that there will not be a NIMH 3. :(

Oh come on, there's always fanfiction, and we all know how much fans are dedicated to NIMH than wannabe-Bluth directors.

Well I'm not sure about it will ever happen. I mean I'm sure someone out there is writing some thing and hoping..

Well I'm not sure about it will ever happen. I mean I'm sure someone out there is writing some thing and hoping..

Actually, it has already happened. People have already expressed their own views of continuity by posting fics on....well....what used to be Robin's NIMH Fanfiction Archive which now seems to have been down for quite some time now(There was still a lot of stories I never got to read!).

I mean, they may not be considered as a third installment to the film, but they many do contain the further out-come of Brisby's family and the rats.

Oh come on, there's always fanfiction, and we all know how much fans are dedicated to NIMH than wannabe-Bluth directors.

Hey Maxx your right. Fanfiction can be a great substitute even if there wasn't another sequel. :)

Actually, it has already happened. People have already expressed their own views of continuity by posting fics on....well....what used to be Robin's NIMH Fanfiction Archive which now seems to have been down for quite some time now(There was still a lot of stories I never got to read!).

See: http://robin.thornvalley.com

Personally, i think sequels are usually a bad idea. i've seen so few that live up to the original--and so many that are almost blasphemous licoughliNIMH2licoughli Part of the problem is sequels tend to try to resolve everything the original left open-ended. Isn't mystery and ambiguity part of what makes stories interesting in the first place? It's no fun if all the questions are answered for you--that leaves no room for imagination.

In that way, i think sequels (including fan-fiction) are destructive. i mean, it's fun to wonder about what happens next, like what will happen to the Rats when they move to Thorn Valley? Sadly, MGM had to answer that question for us: apparently they build empires visible from space, crack jokes about not changing their underwear, somehow manage to produce cheese (i'd rather not speculate on that one..), and run around their megalopolis breaking into musical song-and-dance numbers at any given moment. Thanks, MGM, for clearing that up for us.

And uh.. with regard to my comment about fan-fics, i should mention i rather obsessively write them myself, so don't take what i say too seriously ;)

See: http://robin.thornvalley.com

Ah, there it is, thanks for the link.

Sadly, MGM had to answer that question for us: apparently they build empires visible from space, crack jokes about not changing their underwear, somehow manage to produce cheese (i'd rather not speculate on that one..), and run around their megalopolis breaking into musical song-and-dance numbers at any given moment. Thanks, MGM, for clearing that up for us.

Don't forget that NIMH is a dark castle structure being run by none other than the evil mad scientist Dr. Valentine and his evil genetic electric-chair. :lol:

I do wonder what NIMH (the real Nimh) would think about the NIMH in NIMH 2..

The Secret of NIMH gets a perfect score from me. I have yet to see NIMH 2 to give my opinion.

Most sequels to good animated movies usually branch into genre i like to call cheesy sub-par musical movie. NIMH 2 was just that. The animation and story to NIMH 2 were beyond sub-par, but i'll use sub-par to define NIMH 2, as I have called it other things that are inappropriate for a family safe forum.

The musical numbers in NIMH 2 were just as cheap as those in those god awful Land Before Time sequels.(thinking back, the original LBT was a Don Bluth Master piece back in what was it, 1988?). Now there are 10 additional sequels that make LBT suck worse than sitting through six hours of root canal dental work! I'm only glad that the cheapness expressed in NIMH 2 may never tarnish the sanctity of The Secret of NIMH. If and when a sequel does come along, there better be two things that'll make me watch it. One no corn-ball musical numbers and two, Don Bluth & Co animate it.

Well thats my two cents. :D

After seeing a few trailers of NIMH 2 on MGM.com, I heard the voices. They did keep Arthur Malet for Mr. Ages and Dom DeLuise for Jeremy. I've already got some thoughts for this film though...

Lamest character added:
Most likely Cecil.

Lamest transformation:
Martin :into: Evil Martin? What the heck were they thinking?!

Did the real NIMH advertise off of Secret of NIMH..?" You know like put out NIMH scientist action figures or a NIMH playset like the movie did with the block..

NIMHster, if you havent seen NIMH 2, you are so dang lucky. Given the color was decent (though not as dark as the original), and I thought the voice talents would probably be in the B range, The music was crappy. I didn't think the songs were as bad as everyone said. Granted they were babyish, they won't cause seizures or any major medical problems (except perhaps a slight headache). The best character added would be Jenny, hands down. And I'll admit, Cecil wasn't exactly eye cnady, but Evil Martin almost made me scream "Oh Lord what have they done!?!"

A guy who knows that I liked the original in my city bought me NIMH 2, I was a little peaved, but watched it anyway. Sucked, sucked, sucked, sucked, sucked is all I can say.

True there were two returning voice talents (that of Dom Dom DeLouise and Arthur Malet as Mr. Ages). Well I guess the only thing that did do well in my eyes was the new version of Mrs. Brsiby. Seemed very good to me. The only draw back to the new Briz was the unfortunate fact that her original vocie talent Elizabeth Hartman passed on, sad.

However, one small good thing about NIMH 2 does not make it a worthy animated film, which is suppose to compliment The Secret of NIMH. The movie still has the cheesy sub-par musical movie status I described ealier. Come on MGM, that was the lamest sequel to the best animated movie of all time! Hell, Simba's Pride was better off to The Lion King than NIMH 2 was to our beloved Don Bluth master piece :( .

I didn't think it sucked too bad. The first time I saw it I did liked it for what it was. Sure it is bad but it is NIMH..

I say we give MGM another chance. Surely now they know how not to make a good NIMH movie. But it is their decision on whether or not they're going to go through with this. And if you're hearning this MGM, why don't you give it one last try? You don't have much to lose. However, I'll confess, it did kind of grow on me and I still can't fully hate it. I dislike it, but I still watch it from time to time.

Yeah, seeing how they realized NIMH 2 could not even reach the level of the original, perhaps MGM has learned from their mistakes. If they do make a new one, they would do them selves a favor by make a NIMH 3 a lot better then NIMH 2.

I say we give MGM another chance. Surely now they know how not to make a good NIMH movie. But it is their decision on whether or not they're going to go through with this. And if you're hearning this MGM, why don't you give it one last try? You don't have much to lose. However, I'll confess, it did kind of grow on me and I still can't fully hate it. I dislike it, but I still watch it from time to time.

Seeing as how NIMH2 proved that they'd do whatever the heck they wanted with NIMH without consulting the fans, I don't think they'll care much what anyone thinks one way or another.

Personally, I'm holding out for a NIMH special edition DVD. n.n

Seeing as how NIMH2 proved that they'd do whatever the heck they wanted with NIMH without consulting the fans, I don't think they'll care much what anyone thinks one way or another.

Personally, I'm holding out for a NIMH special edition DVD. n.n

The sad fact about animated sequels is that the producers would rather outsource to Direct-To-Film cheapness. Disney is a prime example of this. All their animated sequels are rushed from storyboard to film too quickly. To my knowledge Disney uses their direct-to-video studio in Australia.

NIMH 2 however was animated is South Korea, correct me if I'm wrong, but I started seeing oriental names in the credits after a while and knowing TV series like The Simpsons, each and every episode is and has been animated in South Korea. In my opinion, a nimh 3 runs the risk of 90 to 10 % of repeating the same or making completely new and asinine mistakes that nimh 2 made.

Like Simon, I am looking forward to a "The Secret of Nimh - Special Edition DVD" rather than a new installment that would more than likely suck.

Yea me too, I really want to see that..

Yea me too, I really want to see that..

Well after the failure of NIMH 2, I don't think that they will be making a third installment.

Well after the failier of NIMH 2, I don't think they will make SoN 3. :(
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-Nimhster 8)

Some might think that a nimh 3 not being made would be a good thing, i'd still like to see a special edition of NIMH, hands down man. :D

Personally, I'd be fine with either. A third movie or a special edition of the first.

Yeah, something without musicals. licoughliNIMH2li :roll: If NIMH 2 was done by Don Bluth, he would probably know exactly what to do.