I know, my incessant posting is getting old, but...

Does Daphne Lage ever visit the forum? I mean, it's silly to make a celebrity of another fan I guess, but I really appreciated her website, art and story, and I thought it would be cool to say "hi" while passing by, you know?

I sent her an e-mail, but in this day and age who can expect a reply from someone to every person who congratulates or thanks them for something? :wink: I was surprised to get a reply from Robin, and that was a real treat.

ah yes " Freeze Frame " The very first S.O.N. fan-fic I ever read. I do not know if she ever visited the forum, at lest not in short time that I have been here.

After I read her fan-fic I stumbled in to Robin`s fan-fic site and got a blessing of the late Paul S Gibbs in his work on those beautiful NIMH fan-fics . :D

Heh, that's cool. Hers was the first NIMH fan-fic piece I came across, too. Then , just like you, I found my way to Robin's site. Good times.

I did find out just a few days ago that some of her sites are labeled with other adult rated sites. :? That kinda crimped the beauty, but those sites aren't up yet so I can't say anything for sure.

Still, the shrine is awesome, I enjoyed her story. She seems pretty cool. :)

Thats so cool, I`ve ran into a few others that seem to have walked that path also 8) . Before I bought may first computer and went on line, I thought I was the only fan of this movie, once I got on the internet I was amazed that others were out there, and very active in the things of the book and movie, I found out that I`m not alone in my fandom. :D

Ohhhhhh, yes. The joys of internet connectivity. Isn't it great? I do most of my work online at the library here at the college; my home computer has no connection. =/

You know, I really don't have an obsession per se', but I do like a number of movies and books similar to "The Secret of NIMH". The first book I read that hooked me was "Watership Down" by Richard Adams. I was either ten or eleven when I read it (I remember because my Mom remarried several days after I finished it). Then, of course, the Redwall series by Brian Jacques, the Deptford Mice Trilogy by Robin Jarvis (a tad too occultish for my taste, but it was good), a great kids book called "The Tale of Desperaux" that I'm sure I misspelled, "Mrs, Frisby and the Rats of NIMH" (duh), and just about any Disney movie. Now my nephews are getting old enough to watch them, so I get to see 'em all over again. ^^

I know I missed some, but those are the main ones. At least, those are the ones sitting in my "shrine" of a bookshelf. Do you like any of these as well?

Oh yes," Watership down" I read it in 1976, I`ve just got to Korea while in the military, another GI was going back to the "States" and he gave me a book, and I ask what it was about, he said "I dunno something about rabbits it`s not very good". Well one boring night I pick it up and read it, It took a few chapters to hook me in and I must say, a great story., a few years later the movie was made. Wow! some of what you talked about is not known to me. :D
But even years before that I have been a John Wayne fan, I think the duke is just one of the Greatist american Icons, I loved his movies.

J.R.R tolken`s books that I read where great

Redwall is something that I just found out about here at the Thorn Valley forum. not only the books but also the DVD`s.

Disney, yes!! Don Bulth, yes!!. both have a few movies that I think are not very good, but for the most part the rest of their movies are wonderful !!.

I have to say, The Secret of NIMH has stuck with me for over 20 years. Later after seeing the movie I read " Mrs frisby and the rats of NIMH".

there is more, but typing as compaired to talking with someone is a chore of its own. I can`t type very fast so it`s slow go. :wink:

Wow, you were a GI? Career military? That's amazing, career or stint, either one. My brother-in-law's brother is a captain in the Marine Corps ("E" or no "E"? I never can remember...) and he's currently in Iraq. :? I'm trying to get my ducks in a row to enlist with the Air Force on a stint, non-career, though I've considered that, too.

Wow, I'm glad you liked the Down. :) My sister actually read it before I did when she was almost nine years old. :shock: She's such a brain. But yeah, I thought it was cool. I know several people who didn't like it, who thought it was boring or dumb, and it does come down to taste in the end (like so many things), but I really liked it. :)

Whoa, waitaholdit.... Redwall DVDs?! I didn't know they even existed! I mean, there's always been Redwall and Mattimeo on TV on Sundays down here in Texas, but they have DVDs? Man... I gotta look into that. Thanks!

I really like "Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH." I saw the movie first, naturally, but I think I prefer the book. The fan-fic I'm writing is built on the framework of the book. It was kinda sad to me to realize how much they had to distort Nicodemus and Jenner to make the story into a good animated movie, but I can sympathize with the need for satricism and a bad guy. You know, you take a few liberties, and they did really good with those liberties.

Ah, I know what you mean about typing as opposed to talking. I'm getting better about my typing, but I still prefer talking for flow and whatnot. Actually, I believe I formulate my ideas better when typing or writing, but when speed is needed it comes down to use of the mouth. I only write at 52 wpi. :?

Well, I did two four year hitches from 1974~1982, once I finshed my last hitch I had a great job at NASA Dryden at Edwards A.F.B. after four years there I was offered a better job back with the Air Force as a civilian, but as of lately (about four years ago) I got moved from Fighters to the Bombers and moved over to south base, I love it there, from the old B-52`s to the B-1 lancer and the lone B-2 stealth left here at Edwards named the "Spirit of New York" Reminds of 9-11 liheart breakingli, and the aircraft goes away for days or even weeks, where does she go to? We know :wink: . but I still work for the DOD to this time.

I know what you say, I also have had family in the military, my Father 21 years, three brothers and baby brother is going to retire"with 20 years" from the Army this year.

Your correct It`s Marine with the "E", I had to ask my room mate who was a Marine.

On the DVD`s of RedWall, yes they are here, and this is the old thread (from Thorn Valley) where I found out about it ...

http://www.thornvalley.com/commons/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62
:D
It`s still in the old Latin format, Wow! that long ago :shock:

Wow, that sounds like a detailed and very stimulating job history. I've always liked aircraft of any sort I could get near. At one point I was going to get my pilot's license through McKinney Private Airport, but I have yet to scrape up enough money for the fuel and tuition. :? Such is life. Though when I enlist with the AF, I would be happy doing anything. My debate is decidine whether or not to finish law school first. If I do, I'd like to consider the Navy for their Jag Corps. Who knows? The future is open.

My aunt works for Lockheed Martin, so I've been exposed to some of the bomber specs; not that I remember much. :wink: She has a degree in physics and some higher math or whatever. She worked really hard on the design and construction of the B-2 Stealth and some on the B-3, but I don't know much other than that. Still, this is so cool. :)

Wow, the Army, huh? I think I'd be a nervous wreck if my little brother enlisted with the Army. To be truthful, Eric, my brother-in-law's brother who is a Marine, is the only other member of my family with a "career" military history. My father was a missionary kid in Guatemala, so he was not available to enlist. My step-Dad was given a grade of "H" (whatever that translates to) during Vietnam, so he couldn't enlist even if he wanted to. And both of my grandfathers served in WWII, one even in the Battle of the Bold. Good stories, lots of family patriots. I'm looking forward to the chance to serve my country.

This is cool! I found someone I can talk to about the military AND someone in Law School. I mean, Simon, it's like thornvalley.com is a perfect fit for me. :wink:

This is cool! I found someone I can talk to about the military AND someone in Law School. I mean, Simon, it's like thornvalley.com is a perfect fit for me. :wink:

We aim to please. ;)

Hehe, after re-reading that last line I had this mental image of one of those corny comercials where someone claims some medicine or treatment changed their lives, you know? And they have a visage of the perfect family and house and life etc... and you're sitting there thinking, "Gimme a break."

But being online wouldn't be very much fun if you didn't do something to embarrass yourself, so I guess I'm on the right track. :wink:

Oh, and you do a good job. :) Nice site, cool people.

Oh yeh! I`ve made fun of my self many times on several animation sites, If you can`t have a good time in what you like then what is there?

But I think as Simon has said"We aim to please", is that I`ts great to find people of like mind.

I really think that there is good history in your famaly also, the battle of the bulge was a smack in our face at first and ended up a massive error for the Germans and we gave them what for!!, That`s how my Mom talks, she from Holland .

As your family and many others, every body puts there 2 cents in of hard work and thoughts It all in it makes a big difference.

I hope all goes well in your choices ( I know that being young and just starting out, you have many) and hopefuly in time we may talk more on this great subject ( that I dearly enjoy) :)

so .. just a link.. of our air show 2003, the 2004 was callceled because of High threat by terrorst at the time .

http://edwards.airshowjournal.com/2003/

And we hope to do the 2005 in sept. oct, we will see .

...but I just really feel the need to contribute to this discussion, seeing as how some several interesting topics have been brought up.

There's been some mention about the military, which prompts me to tell you all that I, too, am considering a "stint" in the forces as a naval reserve officer. Why, you ask? Well, there are several reasons; for one thing, I have this keen interest in maritime affairs that has been kindled by my time as a Royal Canadian Sea Cadet. Plus, I need the money to help fund my undergraduate education. I'm trying to earn a degree in biology as a preliminary education for medical school.

Hmm...a lawyer and a doctor in the same forum...pretty cool :D Of course, that's if you (and I) go forward to finish our studies. I don't want to sound officious, but I strongly encourage you to go all the way. Even if you end up doing something totally different, at least you would have benefitted from the whole experience.

I have some interesting details in my family history as well, though perhaps not quite so uplifting...One of my ancestors was a rich don who gambled away a good 3/4ths of his property in the Philippine province of Zambales. (Plus, the estate that he had left was decimated by a fire; my family in Zambales is literally living in half a house. Well, more of a third, really :P The garden is ruined, too, because of the 1991 Mt. Pinatubo eruption; it's all concrete now XP). My great-grandfather was involved in some fighting during WWI, but not my grandparents; they were a bit young, plus, they were busy being indocrinated/ruled by the Japanese at the time. I remember hearing about how my grandmother (or some other similarly-related female relative) was seperated from the family for all that time. My great uncle also has a "fond" memory of all the Japanese lessons they made him take :)

The most interesting tidbit I can recall, however, is the lineage of my paternal grandfather. His name is "Herreria," which means "blacksmith," but apparently, it was originally "Herrera," a noble family. The Herrera's changed their name because they were being hunted down by their enemies or something (Some of you on the MUCK may be reminded of a similar storyline I made up...or not XP).

I also have had the privilege of viewing an air show this summer, though I was only looking to see the F-18s that the Americans had brought up (It was in 19 Wing Comox, a Canadian Air Force Base on Vancouver Island, BC). I remember the gasps of amazement from my fellow cadets (we were there to perform the Ceremony of the Flags as part of the show) at the fabulous little aerial tricks of the pilots (jet fighters and otherwise) and feeling giddy with anticipation when the sound cut off right before the sonic boom :P

Anyway, I'm sorry if that seemed a bit long, but I just felt the need to provide my two cents to these very interesting subjects. Plus, I want to get to know you better, Tortillian; you seem like a very interesting and cordial fellow with whom, I believe, I will get along quite well in the near future :)

I guess this forum really does have something for everybody ^__^

Para Whiskers,

Ooh! I checked out that site! Magnifique! You know, one of the best shows I've ever been to (really, the only air show I've been to) was a performance of the Blue Angels almost 9 years back. It was incredible. I never knew those plains could pull G's like that! Later the pilots tell you how hard it is on your body to go through that, which makes you appreciate the skill all the more.

You know, I used to fly sims on the F-16 Fighting Falcon in Arlington (Texas). Too cool! I love that plane! The f-15 was my favorite for a while, but with the new 16 I found my "airplane crush". :wink:

I just got a job (three weeks ago) working as an administrative assistant for a law firm. It's lots of fun, but the attorney I work for is kinda demanding at time. :p I write wills and draft estate planning docs most of the time. Keeps me busy, pays for gas.

Sorry about my absense! I'll try and check for your replies more often. Thanks for the conversation, Whiskers!

- Matt

Matthias,

Eek! I feel terrible for not replying sooner! If you'll please accept my
humble apology for neglecting to check the forum. I've been really busy
with school and work, and haven't had much time for anything else. :?

I'm glad you posted! Yes, two cents go a long way when they're invested
in opinion and experience. I'll do my best to do admirable justice to
your post.

Ah, I know what you mean. I was ctaully kinda giddy when I found out my GPA would be acceptable by the Air Force for applying and possible
admittance into the Air University, but I was more than disheartened when
I found out they only offer science degrees. =/ At the least, if I decided to, I could bust it hard trying to do good enough (and enlist long enough) to graduate and transfer to Westpoint. O_O Westpoint! I can't imagine. But, as it is, I'll probably eventually enlist with the Air Force just long enough to serve my country, save up a little, and avoid the slavery tied to student loans, you know? We'll see.

Oh, good idea. My Mom was a bio major. I know here in the states that's
a very common choice (and very appropriate obviously). People have been turning heads, though, by applying to med school with undergrads in stuff like English and/or ethical studies and whatnot. Not that I'm saying you should try something different though, don't get me wrong. :) Biology is a great undergrad for medcial school for obvious reasons. It's just interesting to me that people can achieve a goal like medical school or law school from an unlikely or unexpected foundation, you know?

Wow, at least you know about your family history. :) Mine is fairly uneventful. My blood runs thick with Swedish heritage, and I'm also very strong in strains of Cherokee American Indian. Then theres a tidbit of Irish and a touch of British, but that's it. I'm mostly Swedish. I know that aside from my Native American ties, all my ancestors are very recently immigrated to the US. In some cases I'm only a third generation American, which is still a strong hold compared to some, but a stretch compared to most. My father was born in San Francisco, California and my Mom is from Kentucky. I was born in Texas, and I have a flare of that Texas pride that just wont abate. :wink:

You have a very interesting family history, though. By the way, please pardon my typing. I have a tendency to go too fast, and thus I often make mistakes I don't catch. :? My last name is Lindwall, but it was originally Lindvall. I think my great-grand-father changed it so it would be easier to pronounce, but people still don't say it right, and when transposing they often misspell it. :wink:

Ooh! I've never seen an F-18! liJealousli Dad-gum, I need to get on the ball. Maybe I'll just look it up online. I'm so "behind the times." :wink:

Well, I really appreciate your hospitality and candor. I hope I can be as good a friend to you as I can be, and I promise I'll try my darn'dest. :wink: I'll try and be online more often. Thank you for replying, and don't worry about the length of your post. I mean, hey, look at this one. ^^

Thanks again, and good luck with all. Hope to hear from you soon.

- Matt "Tort"

Whiskers! Matthias! What, oh what, has happened to our wonderful conversation (as tangential as it was)? :wink:

Just thought I'd drop y'all a line. How are y'all, by the way? :)

Well I`m still alive and on vacation :) ,

I`ve been working on my site, I`ve made a 9-11 page (in honor of our heroes) and WARNER BROS. ask us animation fans at the AL animation site and forum, if we would help promote Tim`s new movie "the Corpes Bride" So I made a page for that.

Wow!! lots of great post lately :D and hope to get in on that.

Oh, and ran in to some some great guys that have been in Iraq. (I have friends there also). God Bless you men, we talked about the war now, and I was able tell them about my time in the military when we as a nation was in a unpopular fight, back in the early 70`s.

I`m Still holding the fort here at the AF Filght test center :wink:



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NIMH till the end.

Glad to hear it! :D Alive people are good to have as friends. :wink: Where di you go for your vacation? Or did you stay at home and chill? Ether sound like welcoming choices.

It has been a while since I visited your site. I intend to rectify that, though. Wow, they asked you to support "The Corpse Bride?" That's too cool. I'm really looking forward to it; always been a Tim Burton fan.

That's cool that you got to meet some guys from their post in Iraq. My brother-in-law's brother is still over their doing who knows what. We here from him on occasion though, so we know he's okay. I know what you mean about that unpopular war. =/ I understand that some people may disagree with what they "perceive" to be wrong motives involved in Nam, but one of the most disheartening (and angering) things to see is when soldiers come home after however long in a living hell, having obeyed orders so our country can maintain its freedom and liberty, the people mock and threaten them for their sacrifice. It's wrong, and it looks like we're seeing some of that stemming from the war on terror. It makes you wonder what people really want, you know? Not only is there no consistency, but there's no restraint and self-control. It seems this nation is catering to a mob of children of all ages. I think everyone should serve a stint in the military, if only to better understand the principle of authority and discipline.

i believe people should protest the war not the soldiers

i believe people should protest the war not the soldiers

Right on. While I hold different views of this war on terror, you are more than right in your directive.

One of the things I've been studying about law lately, that most attorneys and judges either do not know or have forgotten, is that law must always attack individual acts, not individuals and the condition of their hearts.

The very institution of mens raea (and I know I misspelled that. I can't find my printout) states that their must be an act of crime to prosecute, not just a strong belief or reason to believe that someone will commit a crime. We simply cannot speculate on that. It's impossible. After all, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"

Is it right to condemn a person (in law) for being a drug addict? Not at all. The law should not and cannot condemn someone for something that they have become, even though we are all responsible for who and what we are. If a person uses or sells drugs, that is a different matter entirely. Until they break the law by doing that, the fact that they are, in fact, drug addicts is irrelevent to the court's involvement.

In the same way, not only are soldiers bound to their duty (whether we perceive that duty to be right or wrong is irrelevent) by virtue of their training and the crucial nature of their job that requires unquestioning obedience, but they are also in a position where they have no liberty but to believe that they are acting for the betterment of their country and for rightness in general. Out there, whether what you;re being asked to do is right or wrong by ethical standards or otherwise, if you disobey an order, many more people will suffer as a consequence.

You are right. If you believe the war on terror is wrong, that is your right to believe. But retain your right to doncemn the war itself as whatever unnecessary or wrong thing it is perceived to be, and let not the returning soldiers who know all too well what their duty is see that they are being condemned for fulfilling their duty.

Alive people are good to have as friends.

They're a lot more fun than dead people, I'll have to admit.

i believe people should protest the war not the soldiers

Right on. While I hold different views of this war on terror, you are more than right in your directive.

i think you miss understood me. i never said i was against the war on terrorism quite the oposite i believe in it. but i also believe in protest and placing the blame on those who desirve it. if you must protest the war then dont blame the soldiers.